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himself. he was in a position to make it one point obama and his presidency the issue. he's lost that chance by what happened at the convention. >> actually, i think he might have lost that chance when he picked paul ryan as his running mate. >> absolutely. lynn is absolutely right. >> that's -- that is where that turned. before then, i think it was a referendum on obama's tenure as the leader of our economy. >> right. he had bob portman, he had a perfect chance to win ohio to say i'm a centrist mainstream republican. here i am. i told you people on the right where i stand on things. i'm now not going to pick the most radical, both fis fiscally and in terms of physical policy guy in washington of any influence. he went to ryan and he stuck with him now and he brought him nothing, ryan. >> charlie crist, a rmepublican and now independent and he does support president obama. governor, good to see you. to carl's point as well as lynn's and let's talk about this selection of paul ryan. you come from a state obviously with a very large older population, key voting bloc. they vote in b
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